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Post by tony34 on Oct 10, 2008 8:36:34 GMT 1
Oh and that Brookside- The Beth Jordache Story in the screengrabs. That was a two hour special that she introduced as Beth right, featuring all the Trevor story in one exciting film version of Brookie! Shame that was never released to buy. I'd love to see her intros again.
I see the Beth Jordache Journals books are on Amazon for a penny!
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Post by Parker on Oct 10, 2008 13:48:18 GMT 1
Unfortunately I have seen just clips on youtube (romance story with...)  But I really like it and I hope that one day I'll find all episodes  |
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Post by Dave on Oct 10, 2008 15:13:27 GMT 1
Unfortunately I have seen just clips on youtube (romance story with...) But I really like it and I hope that one day I'll find all episodes Not sure that they will ever show every episode ever again - they may show a few ... it ran on Channel 4, then Living and Sky1 showed a few months worth for a while - I taped a few when they were originally on but the tapes didnt last - but recorded a lot when they were on Living/Sky1 I have quite a few DVDs worth of clips - many from our good friend joe - which I have yet to sort out for "screengrabs" - actually working my way through a couple of other DVDs which I made frommy clips and stuff I got from elsewhere.... I have both "Journals" - in fact I may even have a spare of 1 of them knocking about .... Yes the Beth Jordache Story had Anna doing 2 or 3 intros to clips....not very long clips though.... |
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Post by tony34 on Oct 12, 2008 0:08:39 GMT 1
Did Living repeat it from the very first episode?
Channel 4 still have the rights to it, don't they?
They should have an oldies channel- there are plenty of old shows they could fill it with. We get endless reruns of Friends on E4. But all their other "greatest hits" are ignored.
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Post by davec on Oct 12, 2008 12:37:50 GMT 1
Did Living repeat it from the very first episode? If I remember rightly - yes. I recall watching as Anna's debut approached and I actually managed to record her very first appearance on the Close on VHS. I then watched every episode avidly on a Sunday afternoon but unfortunately Living stopped the run of shows fairly shortly after the Jordache family arrived and no-one else has ever picked up on the show  I guess it's difficult with soaps as the whole point is to generate interest and build emotional connections between characters and viewers and that only works when there's some mystery and excitement about what's going to happen to them. Now, years later it's all a bit old hat and obviously totally predictable so there's no tension and audiences are restricted to fans of the cast (like us) or students watching to learn from the technical qualities of the show - great acting, direction, plot devices, costumes etc - or REALLY sad folk with nowt better to do  |
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Post by Dave on Oct 12, 2008 13:25:33 GMT 1
Did Living repeat it from the very first episode? If I remember rightly - yes. I recall watching as Anna's debut approached and I actually managed to record her very first appearance on the Close on VHS. I then watched every episode avidly on a Sunday afternoon but unfortunately Living stopped the run of shows fairly shortly after the Jordache family arrived and no-one else has ever picked up on the show I guess it's difficult with soaps as the whole point is to generate interest and build emotional connections between characters and viewers and that only works when there's some mystery and excitement about what's going to happen to them. Now, years later it's all a bit old hat and obviously totally predictable so there's no tension and audiences are restricted to fans of the cast (like us) or students watching to learn from the technical qualities of the show - great acting, direction, plot devices, costumes etc - or REALLY sad folk with nowt better to do dave - Living had them but then they transferred to Sky1 - the only problem being is that they didnt continue where Living left off.... I too remember the Jordache's first appearance show !! ;D I agree that it is bizarre that the show isnt re-shown from it's early days on one of the many Satellite channels - it was pretty good when it started through the Grants to the Dizons to Jordache years - but fell apart after that.... (well for me it did !!) |
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Post by davec on Oct 12, 2008 15:47:37 GMT 1
dave - Living had them but then they transferred to Sky1 - the only problem being is that they didnt continue where Living left off.... Yes, I remember that now. I had expected a seamless link but when I saw the first episode aired on Sky 1 I was dumbfounded to find the Jordache's were already history Silly me for thinking the TV companies would do something sensible ;D |
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Post by tony34 on Oct 12, 2008 22:56:08 GMT 1
I just looked through my tapes and Living stopped at the start of Beth and Margaret's relationship- New Years Day 1994 just after Margaret slept with Keith as a response to Beth planting a kiss on her unexpectedly. (So that was a whole eleven months of Anna). Sky then showed a short burst of shows in the same lunchtime slot but stopped after three months worth, even though they'd already shown eight seasons worth of episodes (according to the Brookside Soapbox fansite -which is a great hive of programme info). So Sky only bought episodes from October 1994 (in Beth terms, missing out most of her relationship with Margaret and all of her relationship with Chris, and picking up at the point of Rachel shoplifting and Beth berating Kenny the shark for harrassing Mandy). Sky's last transmitted episode being from December 1996 at the conclusion of the Simpsons brother/ sister incest storyline with the dirty duo preparing to leave the close). The batch of epsodes i caught on Sky after Living stopped picked up with Simon the cult leader preparing to kill himself (the most ridiculous soap storyline this side of Dallas and the one reason people stopped taking Brookie seriously i think) and ended with Beth and Emma telling Barry their waitress costumes are sexist. So Sky did transmit all of the Jordaches On The Run saga and it's disgraceful ending . SPOILER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think many new Friel fans know this now anyway, but Anna was disatisfied with what the writers proposed to do with Beth's character- the trial went to appeal which resulted in Mandy being freed but Beth staying in prison. Anna quite rightly felt this was one hardship too many for a person who many people saw as a role model, heroine and someone who'd suffered enough and refused to play the part as they wrote it. The producers wouldn't budge and so Anna left the show. Which meant we got a disgraceful end scene consisting of a Friel stand-in and a pre-recorded Anna voiceover with Mandy telling Sinbad she "died of a heart attack, a hereditary condition". Funny how no mention was ever made of this supposed hereditary condition before. They wouldn't even leave the door open for Anna to come back. I would have loved to see more of Beth. Her dramatic scenes with Mandy, Sinbad and Margaret were what earned her those best actress awards back then. And check the black comedy of a line like this: BETH: "We're gonna have to bury him now" MANDY: (panicking)"Bury him??" BETH: "The oven isn't big enough to cremate him, is it?" I don't see why Channel 4 couldn't reshow all the episodes, We've had Eastenders repeated from day one. They used to repeat old Corrie and Emmerdale but stopped for some reason. How many times has Prisoner Cell Block H been shown?? (that was eight years worth of shows!) |
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Post by Bernardo on May 13, 2009 2:11:26 GMT 1
I'm sorry I missed this discussion when it was happenning, but I just read the whole thing and must admit I cracked up with this statement from Joe: "I don't find Anna particularly physically attractive and don't really rate her as an actress". It is also a supreme irony that a soap-opera fan would acuse "Cadfael" of being mediocre...
Honestly (at least for me), those are not comments fom someone who admires an actress, but rather from a die-hard fan of that teen soap-opera. To say that it "will always come back to Beth Jordache" is a joke. It's the same as saying that Elizabeth Taylor's career will always come back to "Jane Eyre", or Michael Jackson's career will always go back to "ABC"!
Yes, she first caught the public's eye with Brookside, it's true and she doesn't deny it, but it's also true that for the last 14 years she's been trying desperately to dissociate her image from that soap, which makes it pretty clear that while it was her first major gig, she was no more than a kid when she did it and she's not particularly proud of it. Nor should she be. That soap was lucky to have her. Not the other way around.
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But I really like it and I hope that one day I'll find all episodes 
